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« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2004, 05:15:00 PM »

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 note i hate stalinism which is what the USSR was during the cold war. [/QB]
I don't like what my country was during the cold war, but I don't like the USA's goverment and way of life
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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2004, 05:18:00 PM »

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 note i hate stalinism which is what the USSR was during the cold war. [/b]
I don't like what my country was during the cold war, but I just hate was the USA is now of ever was [/QB]
Easy man! You meant stupid Bush's actions!
 [And FS is from Canada!]
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2004, 05:22:00 PM »

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   but I just hate was the USA is now or ever was
Dude, Marshall is american, that has to count for something. (Not that I like the USA much...)
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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2004, 05:30:00 PM »

I meant I don't like USA's goverment and american way of life.
 But there are lots of good people - I mean musicians (Manowar, Nirvana), maybe scientists and others. I have nothing against AMERICANS, I don't like USA's politics and Bush especially.
 
 Cuba forever!!!   :ar15:
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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2004, 05:39:00 PM »

FranZ, cats can
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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2004, 06:16:00 PM »

COMMUNISM IS SHIT!!!  :angry:  
 What are you talking about? all is understood!!!
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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2004, 06:24:00 PM »

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  COMMUNISM IS SHIT!!!   :angry:  
 What are you talking about? all is understood!!!
I can't say that USSR was a great country, but I lived there and I can't say that there was NOTHING good. I'm still a patriot!!!   :ar15:
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2004, 06:37:00 PM »

I'm not talking about USSR... I'm talking about the idea, that is destroying human lives!!!  :chainsaw:  
 Blin, I'm a patriot too, but that won't make me love the mistakes my country has made...
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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2004, 07:50:00 PM »

Hey, "patriots", enough...
 
 Reading Bulgakov's God's Heart another time would be useful for both  Wink
 
 Goriachie finskie parni, blin...  angry
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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2004, 09:12:00 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2004, 09:17:00 PM »

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  I meant I don't like USA's goverment and american way of life.
 I don't like USA's politics and Bush especially.
Good  Smiley  I don't understand why Bush is so popular overthere...
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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2004, 09:59:00 PM »

Everything you said agrees with what I am saying, you just didn
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2004, 09:45:00 AM »

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  I don't understand why Bush is so popular overthere...
Indeed? I wouldn't be so sure...
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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2004, 01:14:00 PM »

To Deamon: ok, we'll stop this discussion, because I feel in essence we agree on this, but probably say things differently so we don't figure it out this way  Cheesy  if you know what I mean.
 
 To Svartkladd: Why, he's popular because he's an ass?
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« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2004, 02:51:00 AM »

I think the very thought of "we are humans,we are animals,we are condemnt to our animal needs" is what keeps you tied up to this system of nowadays and kills all will to change this to something better.
   I'm a utopian socialist,my wish is that we all return to agriculture and to craftsmanship,because the born of industry and desire of material luxury brought the problem of individualism that exist today. And yes,I say the same as the russian and canadian guys said in this topic,specially what Svart said. In fact,I feel really happy that I can find this kind of people in this forum,people that thinks like that,and of course i'm happy to know this kind of people exist in other part of the world. No matter the distance,we are the same    Smiley   .
  Ehmm,well,i want to say that yes,I agree with Svart,simply communism or socialism can be only if people is perfect. I think is for humans that are modest,that know to moderate themselves,and have the 4 virtues Platon said: Wisdom,moderation,valour and justice. And of course people who have the will to sacrifice their individual needs for the good of everybody. All this is something that human of nowadays,who resigns to stay on an animal state cannot reach,they prefer to keep on living inside the cave,like Platon would say...
 
 I could talk a whole day about this,but I will calm down...
  Hey Svart!,if it's not too much to ask,do you perhaps have msn??,if you do,I'd like to contact you    Smiley  
 
 Thanks,Adieu!
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