Topic: Therion and ancient languages?

[blackrose]

 Vril is from German meaning magick or power I guess. and is a common occult term.

 I've sort of realized after so long of being on here it's pointless to ask for certain things like this, as we have to respect that the songs are about what interests the band and not what interests the fans. At least that's the way it has been explained to me when I made posts like this in the past.

[Aluqak]

Anyway, I think that Quetzalcoatl would be definitely perfect if the chorus was sung in Quechua or any other Mayan language instead Spanish.

Two relatively minor things concerning your post:
Quechua is the language of the Incas not the one of the Mayans (which speak... Mayan by the way). And given that Quetzalcoatl is the way the Aztecs named that god (the Mayans called him Kukulkhan), you should ask that that song should be sung in Nauatl (the Aztecs language). ...  (just a stupid historical remark, that's all )

The second point is a question that Christofer raised somewhere in an interview about this very same subject: Why people always complain about the parts in Spanish and never about the parts in English? ... I mean, at least there is a historical conection between Spanish and Nauatl.   

What is the relation between English and Nauatl? .... weeell .

Anyway, personally, I have never really cared in which language that song is sung (that song is not even one my faves anyway). The only thing I really care about is the fact that Christofer and Thomas decided to use that legend to make a song, which is pretty cool of course!.

[blackrose]

I think because English is a neutral language. It is not really attached to any one ethnicity or mythology, even though there are English people and such it is more of an international language. Spanish is even this way to some degree.

 I guess if you were only going to sing in one language also you could sing all songs in that language and it wouldn't be weird, but if you just out of nowhere make a song about Indonesia and sing it Polish it would seem rather strange indeed. Just as an example.

 I enjoy different languages. Just wonder why they don't do more Swedish since that would seem to be an easy language for them to write in and it sounds good in the songs.

[Kurenai Schwarz]

Anyway, I think that Quetzalcoatl would be definitely perfect if the chorus was sung in Quechua or any other Mayan language instead Spanish.

Two relatively minor things concerning your post:
Quechua is the language of the Incas not the one of the Mayans (which speak... Mayan by the way). And given that Quetzalcoatl is the way the Aztecs named that god (the Mayans called him Kukulkhan), you should ask that that song should be sung in Nauatl (the Aztecs language). ...  (just a stupid historical remark, that's all )

The second point is a question that Christofer raised somewhere in an interview about this very same subject: Why people always complain about the parts in Spanish and never about the parts in English? ... I mean, at least there is a historical conection between Spanish and Nauatl.   

What is the relation between English and Nauatl? .... weeell .

Anyway, personally, I have never really cared in which language that song is sung (that song is not even one my faves anyway). The only thing I really care about is the fact that Christofer and Thomas decided to use that legend to make a song, which is pretty cool of course!.

Yeah, I commited a mistake... But you got the point, and that's what counts

As blackrose said, English is a neutral language. Plus, using ALWAYS exotic languages would make the songs kind of unacessible. I just think that it looks a bit cruel to use the language of who destroyed their civilization (Not an accusation. I'm not blaming the band, or something like that - I know very well that wasn't their intention. It was just an impression I had).

Also, using Nahuatl (Yes, not Quechua ) would look much more "Therion", in my opinion.

[The Gnostic]

With all thier songs involving Gnosticism,Gnostic ideas,mythological characters etc, it would be cool to hear some Coptic on a song.

Im hoping for a full fledged concept album on Sophia (divine wisdom), perhaps something based on the "Exegesis of the Soul"

Chris feel free to steal this idea

[eMZe]

With all thier songs involving Gnosticism,Gnostic ideas,mythological characters etc, it would be cool to hear some Coptic on a song.

...

Great time to invoke Pazuzu now. Huh, it took YEARS to get Pazuzu searchable on the web.

[Aiylithe]

Just a little anecdote... I was talking via IM to a friend of mine who knows some latin about the line "Lepaca Draconis Nox Tarados", and this was his take on what "Tarados" meant:

Erk (9:01:23 PM): pterodactyl is what it made me think of
Erk (9:01:28 PM):
Erk (9:01:48 PM): but thats cause i got hit on the head when i was little

 

[Mephostophillis]

And what about verse in Draconian trilogy, part 2?

 Lepaca Draconis Nox Tarados.
 Draconis Nox is definitely Latin (meaning Draconian Night), But I haven't found Lepaca and Tarados in any dictionary.

Old topic I know, I think it means "Glory to the night and dispersion dragon"
Lepaca as someone has already said means "Hail" or similar... It's enochian for what I know.

[Delenn]

Quite an interesting topic! 

[harrifol0fenced]

The lyrics in ancient languages, although difficult to comprehend is received well by ears. You would get a feeling that there is so much to learn and explore about the words and music, you will not be able to keep yourself from delving deep into it in spite of the barrier of language.